Kingdom of the Crystal Skull - its legacy and reputation
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It's a good metaphor, don't make me scold you.
The Lone Raider
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It would be if I agreed with you about your stance on 4 and 5, but I don't. Scold me all you want. 
My eyes have rolled back so far in my head from all of y'all that I won't even be able to read your scolding comment anyways. 
My eyes have rolled back so far in my head from all of y'all that I won't even be able to read your scolding comment anyways. 
fedoraboy
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I think KOTCS and DOD will always feel like slightly extended family to the original 3, just because of the prolonged time period between them and the trilogy. I don't see it as a slur on their quality, but when you have a tight trilogy made by a close knit group of people released within an 8 year span, and then get another film 19 years later, and a further film 34 years later, they're bound to feel 'apart' from those first movies, not least because the audience has either changed or grown up so much in the meantime. Watching a sequel to a film 42 years after watching the original is never going to be able to recapture the original's magic 100%, regardless of how good the sequel is.
The Lone Raider
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Guess that's just not my experience 
The Lone Raider
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Would you mind elaborating? I'm curious.
Nurhachi1991
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Nah, it’s still my favorite of the 5
One of my favorite aspects of it was being around the same age as Mutt when it came out so watching the movie, it felt like Indy was interacting with me in a sense, especially those scenes when they are in the burial chamber and Mutt remarks that gold isn’t magnetic and it could be the same set of tracks twice, and you get that Indy acknowledgement “not bad, kid.”
Love that film.
One of my favorite aspects of it was being around the same age as Mutt when it came out so watching the movie, it felt like Indy was interacting with me in a sense, especially those scenes when they are in the burial chamber and Mutt remarks that gold isn’t magnetic and it could be the same set of tracks twice, and you get that Indy acknowledgement “not bad, kid.”
Love that film.
Dr.Jonesy
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Freaking respect, friend.
Mike00spy
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A) All of the secondary characters in Dial work for me. In Skull, I really hate the character of Mac.
B) I don’t think the chemistry between Ford and Shia is truly there. Comparing it to the one between Ford and Waller-Bridge makes me wish Indy’s child was a teenage girl instead. Dial plays a part in that observation, but rewatching Crusade also drove the point home: you can’t recapture the dynamic that Connery and Ford had. Lucas shouldn’t have tried to give us another father and son story.
C) Dial knows it wants to be different and follows through on its premise. Skull tries to have it both ways by feeling like a traditional Indy movie but with its 50’s B-Movie Sci-Fi angle. It sounds weird to say, but you could spend a fair amount of time thinking about Skull without realizing there’s aliens at the end. And because it doesn’t fully commit to its premise (for example, Temple of Doom certainly fully committed) it ends up feeling less of a movie compared to its predecessors and successor.
D) the on-location shooting in Dial gives it a more classic feel than Skull’s.
British Raider
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I think the chemistry with Harrison and Shia is lovely. It’s just missing the kind of emotional dramatic moment at the end to really bring it together.
Bjorn Heimdall
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Yes
The Lone Raider
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Interesting that no one is bold enough to admit that Raiders could be their least favorite for whatever reason.
Dr.Jonesy
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I mean, who wants to be wrong?
The Lone Raider
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I'm sorry, but I just can't see how Raiders isn't overrated. It's a classic film, no doubt - one of the best movies ever made - but perfect? Unparalleled? Unquestionably the best in the series? Nah. I'm sure someone out there finds it to be their least favorite or could make the case that it's weaker than the rest.
After what you did to me, I don't believe you
Dr.Jonesy
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I was being cheeky.
The Lone Raider
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Oh, I know, but I am also aware of the fact that there's a common sentiment here at The Raven that Raiders is basically flawless, and I refuse to accept that. 