Matt deMille
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It is indeed a great movie! My puzzlement is at why Spielberg seems to like to distance himself from it. It's like he's not proud of it, when, as a film-maker, he should be damn proud! Temple of Doom rocks!
Matt deMille said:Ran across this today:
http://www.aintitcool.com/node/46591
Makes an interesting observation, that Spielberg put a lot of himself into "1941". Well, Spielberg is fond of saying there isn't any of himself in Temple of Doom. So, I offer this as food for thought: If a lot of himself made a bad movie, could not a lack of himself make a good movie? Now, certainly I'm not saying Spielberg's essence makes a film bad. He's one of the greatest moviemakers of all time! I'm just saying that his disclaimer of there being "nothing of himself" in Temple is sometimes cited as confirmation that it's "bad", but by that same logic, 1941 should have been great, right?
Again, it's just food for thought.
Its one of my favs too!Willie said:I really like ToD. It's my favorite of all the Indiana Jones films. I was watching it this evening and enjoyed it from start to finish. I really had to chuckle at the scene where Willie has changed out of her torn dress into Indy's shirt and pants and is riding on the back of the elephant and then the elephant throws her off and she says "I can't go to Pankot! I'm a "singer!" very, very funny! and the chase in the mines, oh, what a roller coaster ride that was.
fenris said:I never thought fans "hated" TOD... It was just trumped by ROTLA and LC in terms of story and popularity. Yes, ToD was darker than the other 2 films but it still was a nice film.
When I think of fans "hating" an Indy film, I think KOTCS. Hehehe... But I liked KOTCS despite the refrigerator escape, vine swinging and CGI ants. Who knows? Perhaps the 5th one will be better.
Darth Vile said:I'd be wary of anyone who says that they "hate" a movie. I think TOD is the weakest Indy movie, but I still like it.
It's all a matter of taste.featofstrength said:i dunno...putting my love for Sean Connery aside, I still feel Last Crusade to be the weakest
Rocket Surgeon said:It's all a matter of taste.
Although the creators continually redefine things an original comment I can relate to equates Raiders with a Sergio Leone western.
Another quote mentions all the chances they take with mood swings in Temple, and ultimately it's a cartoon.
Crusade is more like a buddy movie, two compatible yet not...a father and son story.
Skull for lack of a better word is a parody of them all...
It just reflects on the type of person you are regarding which one you like the best/least.
To tie it all in with the topic, that leap from Spaghetti Western to Cartoon is likely enough to illicit some hatred, but that we all still like Indy, it's testament to the draw of the character created in Raiders.
Rocket Surgeon said:...but that we all still like Indy, it's testament to the draw of the character created in Raiders.
AgentBelloq said:What lets it down is Willie and Short Round. Willie was annoying, and I could never like Short Round. Even though I have watched the film hundereds upon hundereds of times I still have not liked him. I just felt he was a weak sidekick to me.
James said:Yet objectively, it pales in comparison to ROTLA across the board: Thuggees vs. Nazis. Mola Ram vs. Belloq. Willie vs. Marion. Short Round vs. Sallah. Sankara Stones vs. Ark of the Covenant. Rolling Gong vs. Rolling Boulder. Soundstages vs. Locations. Miniatures on a Track vs. Truck Chase. Etc. vs. Etc.
Lonsome_Drifter said:Every one of those points could be argued.
Lonsome_Drifter said:The rolling gong and the boulder does not make for a fair comparison.
Lonsome_Drifter said:One could argue that the use of soundstages and miniatures conveys that "movie magic" feeling better than just shooting at a location.
Stoo said:Loads. I'm just pointing out some facts for you. Whether you think they are negative or not is your point of view.
That said, I LOVE "TEMPLE OF DOOM"!
James said:And I assure you, they have been for decades.
But let's take a moment to look at the Thuggees and the Nazis. Which is the better movie villain? Or, for that matter, just the better all-around villain? The Nazis are one of the few groups that can still be vilified without the depiction triggering a backlash. (An issue that affected both TOD and KOTCS.)
Personally, I love Mola Ram, but which was the more memorable threat: The formidable foe Belloq and Toht with his melting face, or Chattar Lal and the high priest that fell off a cliff?
When TOD was in production, fans were hopeful that Marion would return. This did not happen for Willie Scott during the production of LC.
I was having a bit of fun and using them to loosely represent the prologues. I suppose I could've used Indy's quest for the Golden Idol vs. the Peacock's Eye. Which sequence would you say is more iconic?
Where were you when KOTCS was released?
Don't know why you quoted my post in order to add your 2 cents, Disco, but since you have...DiscoLad said:I lacked true Indiana Jones feeling.
You see, It just didn't feel as classic as the first and third installments.
Good but... not Great. Dig?