Phoebe Waller-Bridge
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Lance Quazar
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Don't bother searching for logic. Misogynists gonna misogyny....
British Raider
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Fleabag is phenomenal. So excited to see her in Indy 5.
The Man
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Ah, I see. I have heard her being interviewed, and that accent is somehow perfect for an Indy adventure. Maybe not circa the sixties, but definitely a wartime espionage voice.
Forbidden Eye
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I’ll be honest, my only knowledge of her is voice work as L3-37 in Solo: A Star Wars Story.
I think that’s where a good amount of backlash is coming from. If she plays it like a human version of L3 the movie will be in trouble.
I think that’s where a good amount of backlash is coming from. If she plays it like a human version of L3 the movie will be in trouble.
Face_Melt
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L3 was a lot of fun in Solo, they killed her off way too soon.
I'm personally indifferent. If she does end up playing a large role (and as a strong female lead in an adventure film) it will seem like a bit of an unnecessary jab at Tomb Raider, though. I think that's what has a few riled up.
Also, Indy 4 was so dividing, I think there's a legitimate worry that, especially with Spielberg no longer directing, and Lucas not behind the story, the film could come off as reactionary - in a similar way that the Star Wars sequels sort of tried to be the 'anti-prequels' but to, you guessed it, a mixed reception themselves. Ironic.
Also, she's significantly younger than Harrison Ford. So, that's a little odd. Again, maybe it'll work in context, but I don't think the startling reaction by some is solely down to prejudice or anything. It's just a sort of unexpected decision.
Hopefully they don't kill Marion off (especially not off-screen a la Indy 4's treatment of Marcus and Jones Sr.). If she ends up being the 'new Indy girl' I think that would be just as upsetting for the feminists. Perhaps more so since, again, she's so much younger than Ford.
Also, Indy 4 was so dividing, I think there's a legitimate worry that, especially with Spielberg no longer directing, and Lucas not behind the story, the film could come off as reactionary - in a similar way that the Star Wars sequels sort of tried to be the 'anti-prequels' but to, you guessed it, a mixed reception themselves. Ironic.
Also, she's significantly younger than Harrison Ford. So, that's a little odd. Again, maybe it'll work in context, but I don't think the startling reaction by some is solely down to prejudice or anything. It's just a sort of unexpected decision.
Hopefully they don't kill Marion off (especially not off-screen a la Indy 4's treatment of Marcus and Jones Sr.). If she ends up being the 'new Indy girl' I think that would be just as upsetting for the feminists. Perhaps more so since, again, she's so much younger than Ford.
Lance Quazar
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Huh? No one is "riled up" because it'll be a "perceived jab" at Tomb Raider. That's patently ridiculous.
There's zero chance she's in the movie as a love interest.
The initial negative reaction is based on nothing but stupidity and/or sexism. There's literally no rational reason behind it at all.
If you need me to hunt them down for you, I will. But the only controversy I ever saw was a few articles linking her casting to a dig at Tomb Raider. Not sexist fueled in the slightest.
Then again, I stay off of the toxic cesspool that is social media. I'm sure there were trolls and the like on there.
People can dislike a casting choice in a movie without it being something else. Subjective opinion, remember. Everybody's got one.
Lance Quazar
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I literally don't believe this was uttered by more than, at most, a single individual. In no way will she be playing a Lara Croft-esque character. Except that they're both British, I guess....
Not in this case. There's literally not a single legitimate reason for any kind of anger about this casting choice, other than people complaining that it's somehow "woke."
Please, feel free to provide examples if I'm wrong.
Lance Quazar
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That is wise!
emtiem
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I can't see how anyone could twist it around as seeing a Tomb Raider slight in her being in it. She's not exactly known for dressing up like Angelina Jolie. That's bonkers- there's no correlation there.
Not "Tomb Raider looking," but rather how Lucasfilm was apparently offended by the Tomb Raider games. (How it IS kind of just a female Indiana Jones in the present day) to the point where they contemplated lawsuits. Back in the day, at least.
Having a "lead, female adventurer" from Lucasfilm is kind of a slight against the TR series. Just as if they had a new, male adventurer called Nathan would be a slight against Uncharted. Or if I wrote a story about Duke Starrunner and his fight against the evil galactic Kingdom. It's either parody, homage, or insult. And, either way, it probably gives the copyright lawyers something to think about.
Granted, that's depending on how it's done. Remember, this isn't my argument. It's just what I've heard some say/speculate.
emtiem
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But how is this any worse than having Marion in the last one? Or any woman in an Indy film?
Or all three at the same time.
I agree. That part's yet to be seen.
TheFirebird1
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That's the best part about this whole thing—we know absolutely nothing at all about the character she'll be playing. While I imagine she'll at the very least have a substantive role, all this outcry online about her becoming Indy's successor or whatever have no basis in reality.
In fact, without getting into too spoilery territory, from what I've seen so far this looks like it'll be quite the Indy-centric film.